One thing you might consider is hyperventilating. If someone
continues to breath shallow, rapidly....shortness of breath, they blow out CO2,
which can cause numbness, anxiety, and if one does it long enough may cause a
paralyzing effect. Feelings of detachment could be a combined
effect.
Just
thought I would share a few thoughts regarding your episodes. I was
diagnosed 5 years ago with FM. I also suffered with agoraphobia many years
ago for just a couple of years. I am age 50 right now. That
happened in my very early twenties. I have not had this weird thing you
describe though. What I would like to share is this. I am a
nutritional consultant. I don't know your dietary habits. I would
get off the homones and check into bioidentical hormones or natural
progesterone. Also eliminate as much sugar and caffiene from the
diet. I do believe it's a combo of hormonal changes, anxiety (sometimes
anxiety brought on by not being to control the symptoms) almost sends us into a
panic state, and our dietary habits. I do also take xanax on occasion when
I really think I need it. My biggest help is praying. God does not
want us to live like this.
See
Shoemaker book for any references to MSH (melanocyte-stimulating
hormone). Although melanocytes may not sound very important, you need to
remember that these hormones were often named long ago, and not ALL of their
functions were well-known. This is the case with MSH. It is a KEY hormone
for regulating HUNDREDS of body systems, including other hormones.
I experienced that "depersonalization" in my college years when I took
Sinequan (an antidepressant that isn't used much any more.) The doctor was
trying to treat my excessive sleepiness (which was due to obstructed
breathing during sleep, NOT depression.) I took ONE capsule, and experienced
all those weird "being in a movie" sensations. After reading up on the side
effects, it appears that such dissociative feelings are a fairly common side
effect! It's important to remember that the depersonalization sensations are
just chemical; much like the experience of deja vu (or being drunk, for that
matter!)
Given the assumption that your body and brain are in an uproar from being
poisoned for a number of years (e.g. mold toxins, Lyme toxins), it's just
not surprising that one might have incidents like this. I also experienced
panic attacks about a year BEFORE we think I was stricken with Lyme
(although no one knows for sure.) Lexapro was very helpful, as was having
Xanax on hand to take as needed.
Unless these dissociative incidents are so frequent as to be life-altering,
I would just try to ride them out, take Xanax as needed for any anxiety
induced by the episode (of dissociation), and tell yourself that it's just a
part of your illness and it will pass, in a few hours. Although I am not
VERY familiar with treatment for dissociative disorders, it is my
recollection that the best sorts of treatments that current medical science
has to offer are really powerful antipsychotics like Thorazine! So you
probably don't want to go THERE unless the incidents become more frequent or
upsetting. If you have health coverage {and I know Dominie doesn't}, it
would also be reasonable to ask for an MRI or CT examination of your brain,
just to verify that there is nothing nasty going on in there. But from what
little I know about the subject, there is not USUALLY an organic brain
anomaly causing the episodes.
hormone). Although melanocytes may not sound very important, you need to
remember that these hormones were often named long ago, and not ALL of their
functions were well-known. This is the case with MSH. It is a KEY hormone
for regulating HUNDREDS of body systems, including other hormones.
I experienced that "depersonalization" in my college years when I took
Sinequan (an antidepressant that isn't used much any more.) The doctor was
trying to treat my excessive sleepiness (which was due to obstructed
breathing during sleep, NOT depression.) I took ONE capsule, and experienced
all those weird "being in a movie" sensations. After reading up on the side
effects, it appears that such dissociative feelings are a fairly common side
effect! It's important to remember that the depersonalization sensations are
just chemical; much like the experience of deja vu (or being drunk, for that
matter!)
Given the assumption that your body and brain are in an uproar from being
poisoned for a number of years (e.g. mold toxins, Lyme toxins), it's just
not surprising that one might have incidents like this. I also experienced
panic attacks about a year BEFORE we think I was stricken with Lyme
(although no one knows for sure.) Lexapro was very helpful, as was having
Xanax on hand to take as needed.
Unless these dissociative incidents are so frequent as to be life-altering,
I would just try to ride them out, take Xanax as needed for any anxiety
induced by the episode (of dissociation), and tell yourself that it's just a
part of your illness and it will pass, in a few hours. Although I am not
VERY familiar with treatment for dissociative disorders, it is my
recollection that the best sorts of treatments that current medical science
has to offer are really powerful antipsychotics like Thorazine! So you
probably don't want to go THERE unless the incidents become more frequent or
upsetting. If you have health coverage {and I know Dominie doesn't}, it
would also be reasonable to ask for an MRI or CT examination of your brain,
just to verify that there is nothing nasty going on in there. But from what
little I know about the subject, there is not USUALLY an organic brain
anomaly causing the episodes.
I’ve had weird stuff too. I’m now 36 and I’ve had
different kinds of break downs. Within the last two years I’ve had the crying kind where I’m out of control and
cannot even explain what’s up to my poor hubby. I’m crying and drooling and
gasping and that is not how I usually cry if I need to! I usually have to sleep
and then try to explain in the morning. Also, I’ve always been VERY social and the last
few years about four times, I almost freaked out to get out of crowded places. I love going out and being
with lots of people so this too is very strange. I feel like a scared animal and
the noise levels almost shoot through my body and it feels very oppressive.
Often this go with me feeling like I’m gonna tear off all my clothes ‘cuz I’m
having a heat stoke. And then the next day… I’m fine?!?
We’re a weird, special bunch!!
CHECK WITH DR. DON MAYFIELD IN GREEN VALLEY,
AZ. ALSO DR. JACK HINZE. SUSPECT
THAT IT COULD BE A VIRUS IN THE BRAIN FOR A VERY LONG TIME UNDETECTED BECAUSE
DOCTORS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. DR.
MAYFIELD HAS A WAY OF DETECTING EACH VIRUS IN THE BODY AND THEN ELIMINATING
THEM. I SUGGEST THAT ALL FIBRO AND CFS PATIENTS RUN TO
HIS OFFICE NOT WALK. I HAVE BEEN UNABLE FOR WORK FOR YEARS AND FINALLY FEELING
AND LOOKING LIKE A FUNCTIONING HEALTHY PERSON. INCREDIBLE DOCTORS. SOME OF THE WORK CAN BE
DONE OVER THE PHONE. IF NOT, THERE ARE PLACES TO STAY WHILE YOU GO THROUGH
TREATMENT.
I read a man's testimony about his return
to mental and physical health. He had schizophrenia and severe depression, even
hospitalized at one point. He cleaned up his diet and eventually ate only all
raw fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds. He is now off all meds and thriving. He is
49. I do much better physically and mentally and
emotionally when I eat the same way he does. I also take 5-HTP for sleep
and depression; and I take GABA for anxiety. Magnesium works wonders on fibro
pain and anxiety. You might do better on bioidentical hormones; I use
natural progesterone cream and DHEA for menopause symptoms.
Hope you get rid of your awful symptoms. I've had my
share-NO fun.
I have experienced it many times.
Emotions disappear altogether and I’m sorta ‘beside’ myself as it were, as if
I’m an observer of my life instead of living it. My emotions toward my loved
ones are suddenly absent. Its weird, but im no longer frightened by it. I let it
pass now, because I know it will. For me it happens when I’m under severe stress
and I need to cope. Somehow I disassociate to conserve emotional energy or
something. I have no idea what it
is.
I have this feeling also, It is so hard to explain. I can become
non-responsive kinda like a dream state. I can sit and watch TV if you asked me
what just happened sometimes I can't...... Even though I was just sitting here
watching it? I have an appointment tomorrow with my therapist and plan on
talking to him more about this. I know my peripheral vision has diminished.
It is most noticeable while driving since I have a hard time turning
my neck. My therapist asked me about my vision and I had stated to him that yes
my peripheral vision is compromised and he mentioned it may be cause by a
certain kind of depression. I try to say away from any type of situation
where there is a lot of people it is like I am there and I go through
the motions but it is like being in a dream.
This has happened to me, but not to the extent that it has
happened to you. AND, oddly enough, it started only after my
hysterectomy. It's happened 3 times. I will lie in bed and it's like
I'm in a coma watching things go on around me, and once my 5 year old had to
call my husband to come home. That was scary. I was ok afterward, so
we thought it was a migraine aura because shortly afterwards the searing pain
hit. Hmmmm... I have a doctor appointment in the AM so maybe
I'll mention it to my doctor.
What you have is not a
panic attack. I would suggest 2 things: Having your MD evaluate all
of the meds/supplements you are taking. If not a side effect, Please make an
appt. to see a good Psychiatrist who specializes in dissociative disorders for
an eval. But don't rule out the importance of meds and supplements
interactions.
I have fibromyalgia and anxiety disorder...I feel
they're connected as they started at the same time....I
am now out of work on medical leave. I have applied for disability but
don't know the answer yet. I have had at least 4
dissociative events in the past year. I feel like I'm in a bubble
and everyone around me is outside the bubble. I can hear talking but it's
like murmurs. I can't understand what they're
saying. It's very scary and lasts for a good while.... My
first inclination is to run but it goes where I go. My doctor calls them
psychotic dissociative event and seems to take them very
seriously.
I suffer from the same weird feelings at times. I just
attributed it to the CFS and Fibromyalgia, and extreme stress at work, or
the numerous medications I'm currently on.
attributed it to the CFS and Fibromyalgia, and extreme stress at work, or
the numerous medications I'm currently on.
Another thing I learned at a CFIDS seminar in Sacramento, California
last
fall is that we are quite possibly having mini-seizures due to the CFS/FM.
Dr. Charles Lapp, a prominent CFS researcher was speaking at the seminar
and he mentioned that he thinks mini-seizures are occuring and we don't
even realize it. It's something that I haven't seen documented in CFS and
FM literature and so I was suprised by this piece of information. It sure
makes sense. I can think of several occassions where I suddenly couldn't
remember where I was going or while driving. It is a brief yet scary
experience. I didn't have anxiety with these occurances either. Sometimes
it is just like a quick flicker of disorientation.
fall is that we are quite possibly having mini-seizures due to the CFS/FM.
Dr. Charles Lapp, a prominent CFS researcher was speaking at the seminar
and he mentioned that he thinks mini-seizures are occuring and we don't
even realize it. It's something that I haven't seen documented in CFS and
FM literature and so I was suprised by this piece of information. It sure
makes sense. I can think of several occassions where I suddenly couldn't
remember where I was going or while driving. It is a brief yet scary
experience. I didn't have anxiety with these occurances either. Sometimes
it is just like a quick flicker of disorientation.
I noticed that you have stopped taking Lexapro. I wasn’t sure how long ago that was. Did you taper off it? From what I have read, sometimes when you come off an anti-depressant there is withdrawal/side effects. Most try to taper off slowly. Possibly your symptoms could be related to that change, as it does take time for your body to adjust. Just some food for thought. I hope you get to the bottom of it and are feeling better soon!
I speak both from a standpoint of person with some psychological
training and from personal experiences with some around me.
1. My initial thought is Temporal lobe Epilepsy. Epilepsy runs in
my family, and I live with an epileptic who previously also had
Grand Mals. Very little is known by doctors about tit, as only 1%
of pop. seems to have obvious symptoms.
However, the so-called Panic Attacks that the media describes,
have been discovered about 10 years ago, upon evaluation with
NEW EEG equipment, to be spells of the AURAS and sometimes the ACTUAL
PETIT MAL types of attacks.
When my sig another has been LOW on his Depakote anti-convulsant
OR has been taking TOO MANY BENZODIAZEPINES to try to
foolishly wean off from Depakote, he gets these incredible
feelings of UNREALITY, of feeling he isn't sure who he is, of
feeling SCARED, of sometimes his heart going into A-fib, etc.
I try to explain to him, but he's 79, and cannot remember what I say
very long, especially as he has other people telling him to get off
his meds so he can FEEL BETTER.
Well, unfortunately, if it is something like a genetically HYPER BRAIN
pattern of electricity, it seems a certain amount of FULL SPECTRUM
anti-convulsant is NECESSARY.
Klonopin covers ONLY HALF of the GABA receptors that control
over-excitiation. Depakote covers the WHOLE SPECTRUM of
the brain's GABA receptors.
RECEPTORS CHANGE with different meds, so they ADAPT often,
and become agitated when the med is dropped, or may need more later.
I was on Klonopin for about a year, before I realized I was starting to
have BREAKTHROUGH MYOCLONIC C JERKS in my sleep, where my leg would swing out
with a SLAM! After 2 times hitting my printer next to my bed, and finally breaking it, I QUIT KLONOPIN.
It took quite a few edgy weeks or months, to get my self back to a
PRE-KLONOPIN state of brain response. I understand Dr. Cheney
used to prescribe it, but no longer. Also the SSRI's are VERY bad
for the brain, according to Cheney, as it FRIES the neurons over time.
I was also on them for over several years, before realizing they were
making me VERY depressed. I thought it was my life's circumstances
causing the depression, as how can an anti-depressant do THAT?!
Well, I am against some od the NEW -FANGLED meds for the mind.
2. I once felt really dreamy and disconnected as I had had a second
baby, undergone severe trauma at his birth, and got an IUD with NO
anti-biotic. Between being SO TIRED as a new mother, and probably
infected with new IUD bacteria, I was sitting outside with my children
and felt like I just wanted to lie down and REST. I just couldn't move.
3. Maybe some bad food got into someone's system and has caused
a WEIRD reaction, as these FOREIGN imported goods are just
exposed to UNKNOWNS. Could ba a pesticide or an odd germ?
Mainly, I think it could be TLE -- temporal lobe epilepsy.... One way
to help that, naturally, I read, is MAGNESIUM, B6 and B12-folic acid.
Please write more about what your input from readers is, as this
seems a fairly common but unspoken occurrence, especially
with CFS or MS and other brain ailments.
I had severe anxiety/panic attacks about 8
years ago, they were so bad i could not get off the couch. Deadly dizziness,
diahrea, shaking all over, felt like someone standing on my chest, could not
breathe, rubber legs, felt like i had no control over anything. Whem my attack
was over i could not get out of bed for a day i was so weak from the spell. this
went on over two years alot in the night. I tried all kinds of anxiety meds but
that made it worse, so i started taking xanax and it helped the attacks get over
sooner. i am not a med taker if possible so i only took what i needed. i think
this was the start of fibro, that developed later. i got a hystrerectomy 4 years
ago and the BAD attacks went away but every once in a while i get the squeezing
around my throat and take a xanax and it helps. It sounds like panic attacks to
me. there are different degrees of attacks and mine were so horrible i thought i
was litterally going to die when i had them, it scared my husband to death and
at the time i had two kids to care for. i never sat down to rest until then, i
always pushed myself 24/7. i was a perfectionist and now i just do what i can. i
have osteoperosis in my hands and back and fibro all over. The way I get through
this is Jesus Christ, that is the only way.I got prayed for the other night and
he told me I had my physical and spiritual joy robbed from me for too long, he
prayed for joy for me and I have never been so joyful. I might have pain but I
have to be joyful or the enemy will rob me again and I am not going there
anymore. Stay strong and keep the faith. We have horrific pain but I will
still never come close to what Jesus did for us all. I keep telling myself
that.
In answer to your question, my daughter who suffered with
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for some 15 years but has overcome it in the sence that
she does have her energy but suffers chemical sensitivity ans is on a strict
diet because she has bowel problems, she managed to get back to work 2 years ago
and just one month ago the shampoo she had been using from the body shop
was no longer available so they recommended another one and on washing her hair
she had a massive reaction, she was rushed to hospital and then had a reaction
to the medication as well which was similar to the one mentioned in article 17
which she had been taking a small amount of each evening for years and she has
been having massive panic attacks and also saying she felt she was out of her
body or like she was watching a movie, I had her stay with me and made her cut
the medication back to what she had been taking before and she showed a
massive improvement from that side of it although still suffering itching and
burning on the body but she is getting better each day, we are hoping she can
get back to work as she had all her sick leave and now her annual holidays, in
the earlier years of her sickness she also suffered panic attacks and said she
felt as though she was out of her body but was on medication which I cannot
remember which one but probably similar.
The other thing I would like to mention was my
mother had a nervous breakdown or that is what they called it back in those days
it was around 1947 and she was medicated and she also was telling me she used to
feel as though everything was a picture, my father's mother took her up to her
place and threw out all the medication and she got better, she was a wise
lady for her time. I suffer Fibromyalgia but
have found out I have Chiari Malformation and my sister is also suffering with
it, she was diagnosed with Chiari Malformation but had the same symptons as me
and on getting an MRI I had it too, she has never been diagnosed with
Fibromyaligia so there is some connection there too, but the operation does not
seem to fix all symptons from my research so far so not taking any chances with
that lot, neither is my sister, so we solider on with the symptons.
It would be good if someone could work out what the hell
is going on with all of us sufferers. Hope this
helps a little.
There is a difference in the two. Premarin is a naturally
occuring hormone made from horse
urine, whereas estrace is a synthetic hormone that is created in the
lab. Estrace is supposed to mimic your body's natural estrogen more
than premarin and be safer to use because of this. But everyone is
different and hormones control every part of your body as you know,
including mood,depression,etc. Switching the hormone can cause your
body to have changes in lots of different things, just as changing
hormone levels in a pregnant woman can cause her to act crazy! I
can't take high doses of effexor or birth control of any kind for
this reason, b/c i have adhd and now he says mild bipolar, that
little bit pushes me over the edge into a full blown episode. Your
hormone could be doing the same to you. Fibros have supersensitivie
autonomic nervous systems, so minute changes that wouldn't affect a
normal person can cause an enormous change in them or vice versa,
remember that. A simple thing like switching an estrogen hormone when
your body produces no estrogen of its own totally changes the
chemical composition of the hormone it is used to and how it reacts
to it. Estrogen controls alot of different functions from bone
production, to vessel flexibility, to being a precursor for hormones
such as seratonin and ne and dopamine all of which can make you
either feel really good, or really bad as we know.
urine, whereas estrace is a synthetic hormone that is created in the
lab. Estrace is supposed to mimic your body's natural estrogen more
than premarin and be safer to use because of this. But everyone is
different and hormones control every part of your body as you know,
including mood,depression,etc. Switching the hormone can cause your
body to have changes in lots of different things, just as changing
hormone levels in a pregnant woman can cause her to act crazy! I
can't take high doses of effexor or birth control of any kind for
this reason, b/c i have adhd and now he says mild bipolar, that
little bit pushes me over the edge into a full blown episode. Your
hormone could be doing the same to you. Fibros have supersensitivie
autonomic nervous systems, so minute changes that wouldn't affect a
normal person can cause an enormous change in them or vice versa,
remember that. A simple thing like switching an estrogen hormone when
your body produces no estrogen of its own totally changes the
chemical composition of the hormone it is used to and how it reacts
to it. Estrogen controls alot of different functions from bone
production, to vessel flexibility, to being a precursor for hormones
such as seratonin and ne and dopamine all of which can make you
either feel really good, or really bad as we know.
I have not personally had depersonalization, but my sister
and her husband have both struggled with it over many years. Unbeknownst to them when they
married, both were sexually abused as children. Memories resurfaced in middle age that helped explain these
symptoms of trauma. My brother
had one of the most severe cases
on record, in which the
depersonalization lasted over a year, requiring
hospitalization. An expert at
Duke University finally found the right medication to bring him out of
it, and he must stay on it for life. Both of their psychiatrists and counselors have told them that depersonalization is a coping mechanism for severe emotional/mental trauma that can sometimes get out of control. If it becomes a real problem, you may want
to find a psychiatrist and counselor with
significant experience in treating people with depersonalization to help you
examine the cause
and treat it medically and
emotionally.
Have you checked your blood pressure when these things
happen? I know
you have had blood pressure problems. When I have LOW blood pressure I get that
disassociated feeling, and I have that kind of "aura" before I faint, before the
buzzing, dizziness pre-faint. (I think all my fainting spells as a kid and
beyond have been blood sugar problems). Also, my father had several episodes as
you describe and we finally traced it to reactions to exposure to MOLD! In his
apartment complex, there were areas of ceiing tiles that were wet and moldy
from roof leaks and when he would pass through one of those areas, he would
feel that way when he got back to his apartment. Also, it may be a TIA
experience. I believe it is due to a chemical reaction in the body, whether a
hormone or response to an allergen or blood sugar problem or the result of the
small stroke (TIA). I know you don't want to spend money at a doctor's office
and still not get an answer, so think about blood pressure and blood sugar
first because you can work at control of those pretty easily. Let us know how
you're doing!
you have had blood pressure problems. When I have LOW blood pressure I get that
disassociated feeling, and I have that kind of "aura" before I faint, before the
buzzing, dizziness pre-faint. (I think all my fainting spells as a kid and
beyond have been blood sugar problems). Also, my father had several episodes as
you describe and we finally traced it to reactions to exposure to MOLD! In his
apartment complex, there were areas of ceiing tiles that were wet and moldy
from roof leaks and when he would pass through one of those areas, he would
feel that way when he got back to his apartment. Also, it may be a TIA
experience. I believe it is due to a chemical reaction in the body, whether a
hormone or response to an allergen or blood sugar problem or the result of the
small stroke (TIA). I know you don't want to spend money at a doctor's office
and still not get an answer, so think about blood pressure and blood sugar
first because you can work at control of those pretty easily. Let us know how
you're doing!
Has anybody checked blood sugar
when this happens? Before I got my blood sugar under control I would black
out-pass out even almost go blind. It's a really weird feeling one time
when I took my sugar level it was 35. I could hardly walk.
Doctor said any lower I could have when in a coma. I was really out of it for a
few days.
I've experienced this. All you say rings true. Plus I have a schizophrenic
nephew and his mum was often out of it as I was growing up. Very scary. As you
say, the gene pool affects things. I had episodes years ago - not in the last 6
or so years. But it's vivid in my mind.
Also I don't take any hrt at all. My sis ended up in hospital with a mini-stroke - lost all language and movement - and the doc said it was her hrt and she was to go off it. Of course she's ok now and back on it after putting up with terrible hot flushes etc. She'll be on it for life she says - she's 65 - and has already been on it for 20 years. What a risk though. That's why I won't touch the stuff because I don't want to be looking down the pipeline to the end of my life with episodes like that. But it's not the same for everyone else. That's just my opinion. But I'm not blaming your attacks on hrt. Just mentioning it because you brought it up in your newsletter. But my first attacks of DD were when I was 35 so obviously not hormonal, but then maybe it was?
When I first got sick in '85 I got terrible DD episodes. I'd be sitting at the kitchen table and everything and everyone would just fade away. Awful. I also had a few episodes in the '90s when we moved house to the other side of the country. I think it could very well be related to Hypoglycaemia at times - that weakness and just "losing it". But so much goes on in our bodies that anything's possible and I guess DD is just one of the names for it..
Also I don't take any hrt at all. My sis ended up in hospital with a mini-stroke - lost all language and movement - and the doc said it was her hrt and she was to go off it. Of course she's ok now and back on it after putting up with terrible hot flushes etc. She'll be on it for life she says - she's 65 - and has already been on it for 20 years. What a risk though. That's why I won't touch the stuff because I don't want to be looking down the pipeline to the end of my life with episodes like that. But it's not the same for everyone else. That's just my opinion. But I'm not blaming your attacks on hrt. Just mentioning it because you brought it up in your newsletter. But my first attacks of DD were when I was 35 so obviously not hormonal, but then maybe it was?
When I first got sick in '85 I got terrible DD episodes. I'd be sitting at the kitchen table and everything and everyone would just fade away. Awful. I also had a few episodes in the '90s when we moved house to the other side of the country. I think it could very well be related to Hypoglycaemia at times - that weakness and just "losing it". But so much goes on in our bodies that anything's possible and I guess DD is just one of the names for it..
I have too experienced the same symptoms you have described here ....I always thought they were panic/anxiety attacks . I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Athritis, Degenerative Tissue Disease(these 6 yrs ago ) , and Hypothyrodism( 1 yr ago ) . I began to really wonder "what" these episodes were when I got off my Thyroid meds for financial reasons ( and was told I shouldnt be on them by another DR. --worst mistake ever made---serious downward sprial ever since !) I went into a deeper depression , more anxiety , Thyroid sypmtoms ( if you arent familiar with Thyroid it controls SOO many areas in a womans body!) Anyway , these crazy experiences / episodes have been happenning to me DAILY !!
It's hard to explain but I will do my best.....I get hot/cold sweats,
I feel as if I cannot control anything going on with my thoughts , body etc
(almost frozen like) my heart races (like a panic attack) , ANY noise or ANYONE
trying to help at that moment only irritates me & makes it worst , I
cant relate to my husband or kids what I need , I cry , feel embarressed, then
exhauseted afterwards. I dont FEEl myself and I always say I feel very hormonal
!! I am not sure what the cause .....I am kinda wondering if it is related to
horomones or possibly anti-depressents. These daily episodes didnt start
happenning until I stated taking Wellbutrin in replace of my anxiety meds and
stopped taking my Thyroid med??
We can always speculate .....I dont know ...I am finally seeing a great
endogrinologist here in Orlando who is starting me on Synthroid again so I am
praying I will start feeling better soon . I hope by my sharing , It may have
given you some insight . I do also get somewhat anxious when I have to be in
group situations where I am not really close to the people there. Even before I
leave the house , I notice my nerves getting wound up & my heart beating
faster. I just always assumed that was just me ?!
I’m a faithful reader of you for
years. I get disassociative. For me, it’s good thing. I don’t
get scared. It happens about once every five years and I kind of enjoy
it. It separates my thoughts from what is going on and I kind of see
clearer. I just wait for it to pass. I think of it in terms of God
directing me. I also separate myself from what is going on. I can
see what’s going on and see myself at the same time. I think it’s kind of
neat.
my fibro started with disconnects all the time
I blacked out driving .
I'd go to the doc and say I couldnt get through the veil between myself
and reality. And of course they said nothing was wrong.
I was under terrible stress ... in my 35.
I think my firbro is an anxiety disorder ..... post traumatic stress
anxiety disorders are connected with other mental instabilities in
families.. likely to see bi polar , schizophrenia and of course OCD
Everyone I know who has OCD has someone in the family with something
else.
I dont know what to say for you.
I survived... but I was terrified and horrified.
but I cant say what will help you.
I blacked out driving .
I'd go to the doc and say I couldnt get through the veil between myself
and reality. And of course they said nothing was wrong.
I was under terrible stress ... in my 35.
I think my firbro is an anxiety disorder ..... post traumatic stress
anxiety disorders are connected with other mental instabilities in
families.. likely to see bi polar , schizophrenia and of course OCD
Everyone I know who has OCD has someone in the family with something
else.
I dont know what to say for you.
I survived... but I was terrified and horrified.
but I cant say what will help you.
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I have had something similar, as what you describe, but not to the
point that I had to go to ER. I have the spells, as I suddenly become lost
in familiar surroundings. Can be driving to a familiar place,
following same path as always and become lost as to where I am.
I have had panic attacks with bitter taste in the mouth, nausea
almost to vomiting, dizzy almost passing out, echoing throughout my ears,
blurred vision, racing heart. Last one was at work in 2006 and had
to immediately go into someone's office and put my head between my legs
and sit hunched over. I related it to a mixture of the meds and
hormones coupled with possibly a stressful event prior to that day.
Afterwards, I was just fine but very exhausted. I believe that meds
that work on the nervous system just go crazy sometimes. God didn't
make our bodies for meds.
I read your blurb about "weird stuff" and was wondering if that's
what I've experienced. Sometimes I, out of the blue, have a hard time
connecting with people...or even with myself. It's hard to explain, It's
like I'm conscious but can't think..then I start worrying about why I
can't think. It starts to make me feel very anxious...like "am I going
crazy"? Why is this happening to me?, I think. I know I'm getting older,
51, and I've been through a lot. Then I just think it away, so to speak,
and just chalk it up to brain fog...which I hate! Gee..isn't fun
getting older, especially with fibro and other stuff? I also have
narcolepsy/cataplexy. So I already have neurological "brain stuff" goin'
on. I'm wondering if it's all connected somehow. Although, I've read where
fibro can stem from neck and spinal injuries..hello, got that! I have a
herniated disk in my neck that's pressing up against my spinal cord. Can't
be good.
I read your weird stuff on the page. I too withdraw from life and had
total panic attacks to the point I did not leave my house with out my dad.
I was 33 years old and afraid of the out side. I too suffered from
agoraphobia till recently. I credit my doctors and my family in helping
me. I still struggle at times, but I have gotten my drivers license back
and even have some interest in a love life. I still have lorazepam
incase an attack comes on. My panic attacks have sent me to the Emergency
room a few times. It's nothing for anyone out there to be afraid of, shoot
I tell everyone I see a Shrink and Therapist. Its better to be up front
then try to hide things. Least I found it so.
I'm wondering whether this phenomenom could be spiritually/demonic
related??? Has there been any occult or séance-type activity in the
past? It could be a generational curse that needs to be
broken. Do you have much understanding of spiritual warfare? I
am finally in a church that does. . . but I'm just learning. There
are things to consider, like how we open doors to such things, our
repenting of things we may have done to open the doors--even
just participating by agreeing with the fear. Strongholds develop in
our lives. I believe prolonged stress and bitterness poured toxins
into my body, causing the fibromyalgia. My focus is on eliminating
as much toxins as possible, including meds. |
I am sure it's what you have suspected, that is some kind of anxiety
disorder. The more you think about what's happening to you, the more
anxious you get and the ball starts rolling. I still think you need to
discuss this with your doctor, but in the meantime try to go lay down when you
start feeling funny, take some slow deep breaths and try to relax.
Biofeedback or meditation exercises really do work once you get the hang of
it.
I've never had what you are experiencing, but I did have a mental break
down at 39 (I am 42) and it was at that time that the Chronic Fatigue and sleep
disorder began and has continued. I do know that my adrenal glands are still
shot, that my hormones play a lot into how well I feel or don't feel. My
gene pool is nothing but sewage (mother and two biological brothers have
schizophrenia/bipolar, etc.) I have had trouble with fungus and I'm
fatigued but wired, not sleepy and never am sleepy. I read a book
about metabolic typing for diet and found out that I need to eat lots of healthy
fats and red meats and that helps a lot also concerning my energy. Like
you I've tried many things. Maybe this is hormonal or stress related. If
hormones or anything is off in the body it is a stressor. Thank you for all you
do. I know this must be scary. The mental breakdown was the scariest thing I've
ever encountered and yet I am holding up.
COMMENT FROM
DOMINIE: Thanks so much to all who
wrote. Seems these dissociative feelings could be related to any number of
things, as mentioned above by my kind readers. I do wonder about the spiritual
aspect, because I had some friends pray for me after choir practice
Wednesday night, and I have felt completely normal since then! Also, 20 years ago,
I was delivered from 20 years of agoraphobia by telling the devil NO to any more
fear! So, there is something going on besides just the
physical/biochemical aspects. We are such complex
creatures!
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