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1. "I have just moved from a condo that had so much
mold that I had suffered for years with. I do understand
what you had gone through. I have respiratory problems still
and my fibro had multiplied. I moved some furnishing in the house where I live
now and I will have to get rid of them because of the mold. Yes,
dampness and cold will make me come down with a cold or sore throat. If I should
be outside on a cold damp day and don't cover my nose and mouth I will seem to
get sick everytime. I do have allergies and thought that may be my problem with
our immune system like it is."
2. "Cold and dampness does NOT cause viruses or colds.
Sorry. Scientifically there's negative evidence for this (though my mother
has made that claim for years, too). What most likely happens is that
there are molds present on whatever object is damp and the mold/mildew reduces
your immunity (or causes an allergic reaction very similar to a cold or the
flu). My first allergist speculated heavily that I'd never had a real cold
because I have such a wide range of allergies. Since you already know that
you've had mold exposures and are highly sensitive to molds, chances are really
good just a hint of mold or mildew on the damp dress caused a severe
reaction. Here's an interesting tidbit as well. People with CFS/fibro
don't have normal allergic reactions. I recently had both skin and RAST
testing for my allergies (which were far more than this present ENT doctor had
ever seen in one person). RAST testing just looks for IgE elevations to
specific allergens, which is the NORMAL response. I had only ONE item
elevate IgE - MOLD. Most likely the other allergens are provoking either
IgG1 or Th cells. Just remember, the watch word with us is
ABERRANT reactions to the world."
Thanks for your insights.
Interesting. BTW, I had a RAST test 17 years ago. I was allergic to
the world! The BIG 5 were mold, pollen, cat dander, grass and dust
mites. There were a zillion others, but those were HUGE. The
allergist (who had a busy practice in Tallahassee, Florida) told me I was the
most allergic person they had seen there in the past 3 years. They
also did the skin prick test, but huge welts formed before they could even get
the template up to my arm to try to measure them. I went on allergy shots
for a short while (6 months) - they had to dilute the solution down so many
times that they didn't think it would do any good. I simply could not
tolerate the shots at any greater strength. The itching was so bad I felt
like ripping my arms off! After a few months, I think the shots helped a
little - I felt half alive instead of half dead (ha). But then I moved
cross country - the doc mailed the serums to me, but eventually I
quit.
REPLY: "If you're that allergic to mold, then my guess is that's what
hit you from the dress. My ENT wanted to start me on allergy shots,
but my husband went through the scientific literature. If you're
targeting 1-3 allergens, the shots usually work well. If you're targeting
a broad array, not only don't the shots usually work but you can over-stimulate
your system to the point that you have a hyper-reaction. I chose
to forego shots."
3. "My husband [unsympathetic to fibro] is bad to
have a ceiling fan running over our bed. I have woken up with a sore throat
from breathing the chilled air from it. Another time years
ago I got chilled after being hot and had a very bad cold or
flu."
Most of us with FMS/CFIDS have had
to "educate" our family, friends and co-workers (assuming we are still able to
work!) about our illness - it's chronic and it's invisible - and not like we
have a cast on our leg or anything that would generate
sympathy--
4. "In my humble opinion--YES!! (my mother
believes it too). I have heard many times that it does not cause
them. But my experience--my mother's experience and my kids'
experience--says different!!! The only specific time that I can remember
however--is one day--years ago--when I went to work--and when I got there it was
pouring down rain. I tried to wait it out--but couldn't--so I got wet from
the car to the door. And then being in the air conditioning while
wet brought on a cold in no time."
5. "Not sure about the cold weather, but wanted to
offer something that helped me tremendously with sore throat. I
was told about a month ago that if I ever felt I was getting a sore throat or
sinus infection to pour hydrogen peroxide in my ear canal and let it sit
there until it quits bubbling. Sat. before Thanksgiving I felt the sore
throat coming on. Everytime I get a sore throat it goes into a bad sinus
infection that lasts for weeks. Within hours my sore throat was gone and I never
got the sinus infection. I will always try this method each time I feel
something coming on. Intersting fact, only one side of my throat was sore; the
right side. This is the only ear that the "bubbling" occurred. I tried it in the
other ear just to see and no bubbling occurred. I feel like it was killing any
infection that was in the infected ear."
Quick question - a couple days
before I got sick, I had to stick my fingers in my ears a number of times at
church when the P.A. system kept squealing severely (I have sensitive hearing
and tinnitus, so this is excruciating) My hands were dirty because I play
the piano and there's no telling how many germs are on it from other
people. Because of my fragile immune system, I try to never stick my
fingers in my ears unless my hands are clean. Do you think putting germs
in my ear canals could have caused this? I am going now to put hydrogen
peroxide in my ears!
6. "Your e-mail brought up
some memories for me. I lived in [Nevada] for five years as a child and
seemed to have a cold a lot. We did a lot of swimming in my grandparents
pool at the time. It seems like if I was damp, especially at
night, even though it wasn't cold out I got sick. My
mother was also sickly as a child and eventually they discovered she
was allergic to the down pillow she was sleeping on. My
mom also has fibro. My daughter was sick as a child and
we discovered she was allergic to dog dander and dust which
caused her to have a lot of ear infections. For some reason all three of
us fight upper respiratory problems. I have assumed that it is because we
share a lot of the same allergies. Here in the northwest our sinuses start
acting up when the weather turns damp and cold, when they burn the fields and
when the trees are blooming in the spring. The symptoms you've
described sound a lot like the allergy symptoms we get. They turn
into something more serious if we don't not address the problem and the
allergies get out of hand."
7. "In response to your question about getting cold and having that
trigger colds and viruses. I don't experience that. In fact-- aside
from the FMS (possibly Lyme) symptoms, I never rarely if ever get a flu bug,
virus or cold. I've read on the CFS/FMS message board on immunesupport.com
similar feedback. That many with CFS/FMS never get "normal"
illnesses. Perhaps my immune system is in overdrive
- I'm not sure."
8. "My theory, of course, is yes you can get
sick from being damp and chill. I am a nurse so scientifically
speaking being cold and damp will decrease the immune system (which may
already be altered with FM). The body tries to warm up and become dry instead of
fighting off any virus. So even though other people can be exposed they have a
better immune system then what we have with FM."
9. "I am very prone to bronchitis and asthma. When I get
chilled or fail to keep warm, I often find myself coming down
with a cold, sore throat, etc., shortly afterward."
10. "Yes, I think that a damp chill can
cause us fibromites to become ill.I think we have overly
sensitive systems and seem to pick up everything that "comes down the
pike" so to speak. I, like you, also teach children (ballet
teacher) and I have had one of the worst seasons this year in terms of catching
all their colds which have been going on since September. I noticed that
when I didn't have as much contact with them over the years that I would not get
sick at all or as often. I know about the hypothalamus malfunction in us
fibro people but unfortunately I know of no quick fix to combat getting
sick so often.The really horrible thing is that when we do pick up
these colds/viruses,our fibro sysmptoms intensify (pain and fatigue) and we are
really put out of commission. Sorry I can't be of more help but please know that
you are not alone."
11. "A chill alone
cannot cause illness, but if you have the bug in your system, it might lower
resistance. A
good place to check for info is Medline. I always look at the studies, not the
info for laypersons. Just use the
search engine, maybe type chill and illness."
12. "I do believe that
being in damp or something wet can trigger a reaction. Non-Fibro people
would think this is crazy but when I stay in something damp (like
getting wet in the rain and not being able to dry off) or am outside in the
humidity (I live in Kentucky), I instantly get a sore throat. Any
change in the weather will do it as well…it doesn’t have to be big change
either. I have a sore throat and sinus drainage/pressure almost constantly…but
it seems worse in damp conditions. I recently had knee
surgery (8 weeks ago) and having to ice my knee for hours on end was a struggle.
So I think there is some validity to your
reaction."
13. "I guess you
and dampness just don’t get along. I don’t have much input on this other
than to clarify what I think you already have a sneaky suspicion about: That is,
people who are really well with a strong immunity just don’t come down
that sick so quickly as people who are compromised in some
way. I know people who just NEVER catch a cold or flu. Put
it down to strong immunity or genetics, who knows? There are those people
who are always well, those who are always ill and whole range of other people on
a scale somewhere in between. For people who are ill often (like those
with FMS / CFS etc) it doesn’t take much to rock the equilibrium. So when you
are exposed to damp, chills, moulds etc, it’s going to put a strain on your
immune system and then you’ll just catch one (or two or three……) of the
multitude of air born viruses and bugs hanging around in the air. My heart
goes out to you. I don’t suppose you’ll be trying on any damp clothes in the
near future. Best keep yourself warm and dry eh?"
14. "OH MY GOSH YES! I didn’t even realize that this might
be it! The last few days in MN it has been c-c-c-c-cold! Between -7
and +15 deg and I have had a sore throat every day, for no apparent
reason. I have not been around anyone sick, my son has not had a
sore throat, and no one around me has had one. But it’s been so bad it
felt like it was on fire the last couple days. I had no idea how I could
have gotten it—until now that is. It makes perfect sense, because
I too was a “sickly” child living in the cold damp north
MN."
15. "I think these people saying it can not cause a cold mean that
you must already have been exposed to a virus it will not just pop up if you are
cold. Because I have read how when the body's temp is lowered it can
take up to hours for it to return to normal, depending on the situation.
This overworks the body - another name - stress - and stress lowers resistance
so in those of us who are already very weakened it is a
nightmare. Also, when I do my ice therapy per my chiro it is for no more
than 15 minutes and I get under plenty of covers, with socks, and make sure the
room is at a good temp (76-78). The ice does help the swelling from
inflammation but I must stay warm. Finally when in doubt, I follow old
fashioned advice. Many of these people lived full lives without
anitbiotics, etc. So, they always bundled up - therefore,
I consider it good advice."
16. "There have been studies that indicate no relationship, but other
studies have suggested that there is a relationship between
getting cold and damp and then catching a cold/virus. The jury is still
out. The body does get stressed in the damp cold and
therefore less resisitant to illness. If you wear damp clothing,
the blood vessels in the nose get constricted, which keeps white cells out of
the area and could increase chance of infection. So, although the cold
itself is not the culprit, the cold and damp might allow the virus to get ahold
of you. I get sick whenever I drink even just a little alcohol. Just
a glass of wine is all it takes. The alcohol apparently stresses
my body and always results in a virus. I avoid alcohol as a
result."
17. "I'm sure you've found and read
about the numerous scientific studies done that show there's no
link between catching cold viruses and being in cool-damp
locations. One I heard about on TV showed the control group in
warm-dry conditions had the same "catch" rate when all were exposed as the
cool-damp group. You mentioned
people who have difficulty maintaining body temp; I'm one such person,
especially after my radiation therapy for a perotid tumor. Along with my
fibro, I've developed secondary Reynauds Phenomenon. It's
main symptom is fingers & toes (and sometimes nose & ears) losing
circulation and turning white mainly when expose to cool temperatures which
causes inflamation of the smallest capillaries shutting off circulation.
It's hell to have this in Nebraska in the winter or even the fall or
spring. It came on gradually along with my fibro and it cycles in
severeness. It's a common secondary effect found in Fibro, RA, MS and
other immune-ralated illnesses. My
radiation therapy may've caused the Reynaud's to worsen, but it may've been
going that way anyhow. It just seemed to make a quantum jump during the
end of the therapy. One day my body temp dropped to 96.0 (threshold of
hypothermia) at a McDonalds during lunch and four fingers went white on
me--2 on each hand. It was a chilly McDonalds for sure. So given my temperature issues, you're theory would
mean that I should be getting colds a lot more often. It has not been the
case. In fact, I've had fewer colds, but that is purely anecdotal.
That's the problem with anecdotal
evidence; it's easy to make connections when none exist."
18. "Yes, yes,
yes, always. I live in Arizona, which is very dry, as we know, but when
it rains here and when it's "colder", my throat is sore usually all
these months. In fact, we just recently experienced a rain and a cool down (for
the Phoenix metro area), and my throat has been so sore, I've been getting the
typical hoarseness that I've seen as a symptom I think of M.E. although it might
also be one of fibro too. Since I have symptoms of both as well as CFS (or
CFIDS, whatever you want to call it), it's hard to tell which symptom is from
what. Like the sore throat could be from fibro or CFS, but I think the
hoarseness and even loss of ability to speak at all is M.E. But my throat has
been raw, and I went out and got my usual 100 sore throat pain drops that gets
me through the "winter" here. One winter, I also had such bad shortness of
breath and chondroitis that I couldn't stand for anything tight against my
chest, couldn't wear a bra or tight clothing and used Vicks Vapor Rub every
winter. I have what you have too, except at first my fever was 101 and
then it was 98.7 and then up to 100 and then down and up for the past week or
two. I'm sure I also have a cold with this, because my head feels stuffed with
cotton, but I used something for immune support for Walgreens every three or
four hours last week for three days in a row and at least I got rid of "hearing"
water in my head whenever I moved my head. Plus, here's what I learned
in nursing school, and to tell you the truth your husband is right in
one sense. Colds/sore throats are not caused by getting chilled or
damp. Nothing is. However, when one becomes chilled or damp, it's a
shock to the system and the stress response kicks in. When the body's entire
homeostasis is upset in this way, if you're already not 100 percent healthy and
normal, you can catch just about everything going around. And with fibro, we're
already compromised, although it's not an autoimmune disorder, they say, but
having pain and fatigue and never knowing what you can do and when is extremely
stressful. And fighting this, we already probably have stress and thus
lowered immunity. So breathe air that's filled with viruses or even touch your
husband's hand, which he may not have washed when he last shook hands with
someone, and he has no problems with his health, so his body is equipped to
fight infections, whereas yours is not, and there you go, you're sick. I
knew there was a reason I caught everything, and when I got all these tests done
at the Fibro & Fatigue Centers, I was shocked to see that my immunity was
severely compromised: IgG, IgM, IgA were all way below normal."
19. "I have to
be very careful of damp and windy days. Actually whenever the weather
changes. From nice to humid, from nice to rain, from cold to very cold.
High winds always do my sinuses in. I have fought multiple yearly
colds/viruses since I was a little kid. I was probably the first generation who
was prescribed penicilliin/antibiotics continually. My parents
who had never visited doctors themselves while growing up took me whenever
I had "any" symptoms. I was always on antibiotics which I
feel has a lot to do with my health issues now. This is what
usually works for me now--90% of the time. If I immediately take
supplements at the FIRST FEEL of any kind of nose/throat/chest
symptoms, I can nip it before it takes over. Even if I am not sure--is it
allergy or ?? I take it. I have had huge success with the following routine for
the past 5 years. Even when my immune system was very low from breast cancer
treatments this kept my symptoms from worsening. I take Cold-Eeze lozenges
(which are awful) every 2 hrs, then the following 2xday: Echinacea with
goldenseal, Grapefruit seed-125mg, Initial Defense by Kan and a prescribed
decongestant Respaire-120. My symptoms usually are gone by the third day without
my getting worse. I have to take these asap. I have had symptoms come up when I
have not been home and have stopped what I was doing to go home and get them. If
I am too far and 4/6 hrs go by it is usually too late and I am down. However, I
take the above as soon as I can and often(not always) symptoms may last only a
week. I have been known to have a cold/virus for 2-4 weeks in the past.
This is what helps for me. Everyone is different and if you have high blood
pressure or other med conditions I am not sure what can or cannot be
taken."
20. "I too, have always been told by doctors
that you can't get sick from being under a ceiling fan, damp or cold air, or by
wearing damp clothing etc. I do know that just like you, the humid
weather in Florida affects me worse than almost
anything else. When we do have those rare days of cooler weather
with low humidity..... I feel SO much better. The difference
is remarkable! I have seriously considered moving to a drier climate. The
other thing that greatly impacts my condition is any changes in the Barometric
pressure. When we experience stormy weather here in Florida, I end up so
ill and in such pain that I am flat on my back for the
duration. So, that makes me think that temperature changes of any kind can
seriously affect those of us who suffer with Fibromyalgia."
21. "My son developed pneumonia
from sleeping near a "water cooler." They're like an air conditioner, but
operate by having water continually flow over the coils and then a fan blows
that cooled air into the room. We lived in a dry part of TX at the
time. I've found that the old wives tales usually have some
"standing" in them ("don't go out in cold weather with your hair
wet). The problem with Fibromites is that we've a lowered immune
system which allows airborne viruses, etc., to take hold much more easily than a
"normal" person. These viruses also thrive in damp areas,
situations. With my hypothalamus out of whack due to the Fibro, I find I
can't tolerate changes in temperature. I also tend to run a lower body
temperature and am told this is also usual for my condition. Therefore, my
body doesn't generate the "heat" needed to destroy incoming contaminants.
In essence, those with Fibromyalgia are walking targets!"
22. "I find rapid cooling in the
weather can chill me and that can make me sick and then I flew on a
plane recently and really got sick despite taking vitamin c and using hand
sanitizer."
23. "I get sinus, sore throat attacks that come on
suddenly but I've blamed them on an allergy to something.
I can be fine one minute and then all of a sudden there it is. For you, I
wonder if it could be the mold spores coming out when you are near the
dampness....could have been some in the dress, etc. As
for the ice bags....I agree with your chiro on that one. Sorry, but I've
been helped tremendously from ice on the back. More so than heat although
the heat feels great. Maybe it's just the wetness and dampness in general
for you. I know the cold of Michigan winters really bother me......it's so
damp and the wind chills to the bone."
24. "I've always been told that being in cold
weather can't make you sick. I don't know about the dampness.
Doesn't seem like it should. And having a damp dress on just a few minutes
just doesn't make sense. When you get out of the shower and put a towel
around you for a few minutes to answer the phone, or something, one doesn't get
sick. But then again with fibro, nothing makes sense
anyway. I'm more apt to think you picked up a virus when out
shopping for that dress. Whenever I go shopping, or anywhere in public, I
wash my hands really good as soon as I walk in the house. My mom has
been telling me that for yrs, but just started doing that. Maybe we need
to keep wipes in our cars and do it when we get to the car and do our steering
wheels. I just thought of that, can you imagine what's on the steering
wheel? Makes you wonder though if we're supposed to be trying to avoid
everything, won't that weaken us even more?"
25. "Just a thought to let you
know, I have a sore throat and coughing and
sweating and feeling terrible, I felt it came on after the air
conditioner was on too cold, I suffer terrible when the weather changes from hot
to cold wet to windy, humid just weather in general seems to affect me, my body
cannot handle it, I am not sure about damp but going on the rest of it I would
say that your body is like mine it just cannot handle different temperatures
just another problem when you suffer from Fibromyalgia, good luck and I know
exactly how you feel."
26. "This is ridiculous on it's face, not to mention
shown in well controlled studies to be absolutely untrue. FMS is an
illness in the brain. When it "thinks" there is a threat, it acts on it like
it would act on a real virus. That is why they changed CFS to CFIDS. The
immune system in dysfunctional. It attacks things that are not a danger to
us, but doesn't fight infection well. It turns on the immune response, and
sometimes it just won't turn off for days or years. This happens most
when one is worn out or overdoing; and in the winter when the heat
we use in our homes dries out our mucus membranes and they are less
effective at keeping viruses or bacteria to penetrate. (that is their
job) In my business, and among friends not ready to accept a diagnosis of a
syndrome with no known cure, I have heard people repeatedly say," I feel
like I'm coming down with something" they feel like that for a few days,
or feel mildly ill for several weeks or even months, but never actually
get the flue or a cold, etc. When I was in graduate school (at a medical
center), I was overworked due to the studying, working for the school,
and my internship. Then I found out my father-in another State-was
dying of lung cancer. Following finals, I came down with "strep throat".
This triggered an immune response that lasted for 2+ years. Same
symptoms as the writer, and 20 years later I still have health problems.
As long as I take care of myself well, don't overdo anything, have a
great wellness program, and keep toxic people out of my life, I do fine.
Get out of balance, and I get those symptoms again. It is NOT the
virus I got 20 years ago. It is a strange combination of factors that lead
to the study of Psychoneuroimmunology. That was what I
studied in grad school, and there is an association of people that have
diseases or syndromes that fall in this category. Try googling it. If you
can't find it, email me and I'll point you in the right direction. The
bottom line? Just because 2 things happen in close temporal proximity does
NOT mean one caused the other. The best way to unlock these mysteries is to
keep a journal of symptoms, actions, food intake, emotional state or stress,
for several months and then show it to a doctor in the field. Then you can
find out what is really going on and possibly prevent it. I have FMS. I feel
awful when I am cold or damp. Aways have. The answer to "why"?, lies within.
Not from a lifelong virus."
27. "Although getting
chilled can lower your resistance to certain viral infections, the virus would
have to be in your system already. Most viruses such as a cold or flu virus have
an incubation time of between three days and a week. If you have not got a virus
in your body, the infection will not ensue from being
chilled. If the infection is
bacterial, the chilling can cause a relapse because it creates a better
environment in your body to replicate. Germs replicate very quickly, so lowering
your body temperature can give them a foothold. In
both cases, the germs have to be present in your body
already. Also, I’d give Wikipedia a careful
look askance… Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. It’s a website
where people all over contribute their knowledge. Whereas this is very
interesting, it is also not necessarily an entirely reliable source for
important information. Try health
sites like mayo clinic and such for more reliable
information."
28. "In spite of what the "experts" claim that cold,
damp air does not cause a cold or sore throat, I know my body and
when exposed to these conditions I get a cold, sore throat, and sinus
congestion. Just this past week our windows were open all night (my
husband is always hot, and I am always cold!!!) and a breeze blew over my
head, and I came down with a very bad sinus infection. I can not even tolerate
sitting near a fan for fear of getting sick. My mother-in-law also has this
problem. No one seems to believe us when we tell them. Our medical
"experts" may never agree with this, but I suspect you will have many
people confirming what we know to be true."
29. "I would recommend you get NAET treatments for dampness
and humidity. I am feeling better. They should have them in
vials and you can always hold a damp cloth when they do the NAET
treatment."
30. "Colds, etc., are brought on by viruses, bugs, and can't
be brought on by getting chilled alone. I used to take a shower
and wash my hair, towel dry it and go to work the winter. It's a
coincidence if you get sick after trying on a wet dress. When I was a
little girl, I came down with the Measles the morning after I was doing
somersaults in my back yard. I thought that somersaults caused Measles and
would not do them for many years after that."
31. "Viruses cause colds ,sore throats etc... you dont get
sick from getting wet..but why more in the winter? because when the
doors and windows are closed tight the "germs" are trapped indoors and are are
more easily passed from one person to another.. The best germ fighter is, on a
cold winter day..turn down the heat and open the windows and let the cold air
blow through your house( even if the neighbors do think you are crazy...)
I do think however if your resistance is low, you might make yourself more
susceptible by getting run down, no sleep chilled and damp...then if you have
been exposed to a sore throat virus you probably will be more likely to
get it.. but the virus MUST be present to start! This article is
very informative: http://www.healthcaresouth.com/pages/askthedoctor/commoncold.html."
32. "Mold is always worse in damp or humid climates. I think
the mold sort of reactivates. Next time you are in a moldy place, take
note of how you feel. When I stay at a hotel, I usually get a sore throat
and my guess is that it's probably pretty moldy. I went to visit my cousin
who was staying at a hotel near Disneyland in California where I live.
There was a huge outdoor pool area and there was indoor/outdoor carpeting in
front of the rooms and near the pool. I was there a few minutes and could
feel my throat sore and ears plugged and developing a headache. So
what we think is a cold might just be our immune system over reacting to the
mold - similar to an allergy or maybe the mold reactivating in us. Maybe
the dress you got at the thrift store was already old and musty and when you wet
it became worse. I do believe that our body doesn't regulate
temperature etc. but I feel that the root cause is some infection that
affects the central nervous system - like a fungal or bacterial
infection. But that's just a guess. I've been sensitive to mold for a
while and used to get allergy shots for it. I recently got tested
and didn't test positive for mold sensitivity but why is it that when I'm around
musty/moldy places I feel terrible?"
33. "As a nurse we were versed on this all the time,
and every reasearch says no that a chill will not bring on a cold or virus .
However they also say that if you have been ill, or your resistance
is low then a chill can make it worse and you would be susceptible to a
cold or virus. I have looked into this myself I am seem to get ill when I go in
unfamiliar places, touch things that others have touched or worn, eat where
there is a large group of people . I hate the Doctor's office because when
I go there I nearly all the time get sick a few days after. Just two
weeks ago my daughter in law I went to a Goodwill Thrift Shop
and were looking at jeans, jackets and other items for the girls for play .
I got awful sick in about 24 hours. I try and stay away from
stores, shops, events, even church when there is an outbreak of colds and
flu going around. True, I think we are more able to catch those things
than normal people, but today I was out in the icy wind finding my trash cans
that blew away, and putting my downspout up that blew off and I feel fine .Even
in the summer going out to eat or a picnic worries me .I think its objects that
touch us and have been on other people, or being around places and people that
carry it , that does not mean they get ill , but can pass it on to people like
us .As soon as school starts and the grand kids come around I get sick right
away even if they don't have anything. I keep my house sparkle clean
and use lots of bleach, and wash, wash my hands, always cleaning door knobs and
counters. I guess that's something we will never know but I do think its
things other people touched, germs in the air and people that carry it to
us. I started writing down where I was and what I was doing when I go
places then see what happens!"
34. "I have ALWAYS, ALWAYS fallen ill with respiratory
illness when I get a chill, damp chill, or even FEEL COLD for a few minutes
- if I am lightly dressed and there iss a cool wind. All I
have to do is start shivering for a few minutes and the next day, I will be
ill. I have learnt NEVER to go out without a sweater or jacket because I
have learnt that if I get a chill, I get sick - swollen glands,
cough, sore throat, fever. Whereas others don't, in the same
circumstances... I have however been taking a combination of vitamins that
they sell in my country (South Africa) called Vita-Thion, since April this
year when I could not shake off a lingering cough and sinus infection - and
this has kept me safe from flu and gives me enough energy to get through the
day. It contains: Ascorbic Acid 500mg Glutathion 0.5mg Vitamin B1
2.0mg Sodium Adenosin Triphosphate 0.5mg Calcium Inositol Hexaphosphate
100mg (excipients). If I do not take it I have zero energy and can
only lie on my bed all day and mourn my lost life."
35. "I have friends in medical fields that would
tell you that it is impossible to catch a cold from a chill unless you had a
virus just waiting to happen. It could be that there are those that really
never get rid of the virus so they do have one just waiting to pop
out. Now my Mother's diagnosis would be completely
different. If your head or feet got wet or you sit in a draft or
in front of or under a fan too long you're going to get a cold.
As hard as I've tried in my sixty plus years I've never found my Mother to be
wrong. As a side note, I went to my Lyme Disease doctor a couple of
days ago and he thinks that 60% of those with Fibromyalgia really have Lyme
Disease. He says that research is leaning that way. Either they have
not been tested or the doctor who read the test didn't read it correctly.
He sends his lab for testing to one lab in New Jersey. This lab only does
test for lyme disease. Just food for thought."
36. "I have also heard that colds are not
CAUSED by getting cold or damp but because of germs and poor resistance to them.
However, if I go out in the cold damp weather I immediately have an
increase in my fibro symptoms--one of which is a sore throat. I went
camping once and got so misreable with fibro symptoms I had to leave and come
home. It was really damp in the tent. I try to avoid getting cold or damp
because I feel better if I can stay dry and warm."
37. "I was feeling okay sinus and no colds then got
out in the damp to put a few Christmas things out in the yard. Got on the
damp ground for a short time. It's been rainy and
just usual Tennessee weather for December here. Now I have a cold and
sinus real bad. So I think for us Fibro people everything affects us
different. I used to never get sick with much. Now my life
is so different."
38. " I HAVE HAD A COLD LIKE VIRUS OR HALF GERM/HALF
VIRUS FOR EVER I THINK. I LIVE IN THE SALT LAKE CITY VALLEY
WHICH IS MOSTLY DRY - BUT I KNOW WHEN IT IS MOIST OUT - THE WIND ETC.
SEEMS TO CUT THROUGH ME WORSE. BUT I DON'T THINK IT HAS MADE A BIG
DIFFERENCE IN GETTING A COLD OR VIRUS. I WONDER IF OTHERS
HAVE A 1/2 OR 1 DEGREE LOWER "NORMAL TEMPERATURE" THAN THE NORMAL
98.6. I ALWAYS RUN LOWER THAN NORMAL. MY BASIC THOUGHT
ABOUT WHAT YOU WROTE IS I THINK MAYBE WE HAVE THIS VIRUS/GERM GOING
ALL THE TIME AND A LITTLE EXTRA PROBLEM JUST BRINGS IT OUT- THEN OUR SYSTEM HAS
TO FIGHT HARDER. I DON'T THINK IT EVER LEAVES
ALL THE WAY. "
Yes, my temperature often runs a
degree below normal. When I get a mild fever of 99.1 I feel ill.
Maybe that's like having a 100.6 temperature for a normal
person?
39. "First about the cold: I can't give you the
reference but there was a peer review reference study about people who
put their feet in cold water. this study demonstrated increased
susceptibility to illness like colds from being chilled. (even though in the
past this has been dismissed as wives' tale, research now supports).
Secondly, I would guess with the thrift store item it wasn't the chilled part
but the mold. Honey, as someone with cfs/fms I would
never buy anything at a thrift store. Not only are you dealing with
storage issues, mold/mildew, but also "who knows what" kind of fabric
softener/detergent chemicals are there. These things all make me horribly
sick. Also as a warning, you may want to share with your readers; I just got
very sick two weekends in a row: First weekend, my husband got a
new big screen TV which offgassed horrible
chemicals and gave me the worst headache that lasted two days. You
could smell it all over the house. Second weekend, my mother in law
sprayed air freshener. I probably don't need to expound on that
one. But warn people on your site about buying new appliances because heated
plastic not only has cancer causing chemicals like phalates which can harm
"Normal' people over time, they can make "us" very sick
immediately."
40. "Yes getting cold can make you get a cold and
sore throat, Know it works that way for me especially if have been under a lot
of stress, and the past two months sure have been, So with Lupus and fibro, and
now this cold, think closer to pnemoina the way chest is starting to hurt, isn't
having fibro lots of fun? And like you have said time and time again
people just think we are putting it on so we can be lazy, and most of us
work harder than they do and them feeling good all the
time."
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